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Nissan Pivo - Twin 50s Edition
Sep 30th, 2005 at 6:34pm
 
...found a link to a new Nissan concept car today, the Nissan Pivo, a car with a 360 degree rotating cab.  Very futuristic, and probably makes parallel parking a snap.

Here's the concept:

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...I'm thinking that this vehicle could use something to, I don't know, spice it up just a little.  

So, for the hardcore Road Rage edition, add an electric-powered Sperry ball turret with twin .50 calibre machine guns.

There, that's much better.

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Re: Nissan Pivo - Twin 50s Edition
Reply #1 - Sep 30th, 2005 at 10:40pm
 
Hi,

Is that real or did you photoshop it, in some form of illustrator.

I know give the image of the car to CTC, if anyone else would appreciate it besides me I think it would be him.  I myself am going to be driving a tank in the future or maybe even an armourized tank type steam roller for smashing and rolling over Zombies...

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Re: Nissan Pivo - Twin 50s Edition
Reply #2 - Oct 1st, 2005 at 8:16am
 
JHernandez wrote on Sep 30th, 2005 at 10:40pm:
Is that real or did you photoshop it, in some form of illustrator.

I know give the image of the car to CTC, if anyone else would appreciate it besides me I think it would be him.  I myself am going to be driving a tank in the future or maybe even an armourized tank type steam roller for smashing and rolling over Zombies...


The first photo is real, the second one (with the machine guns) is my PhotoShop modification.

Yes, I think the armored version is a good vehicle for our Canadian contributor, ctc.  So, Don, what do you think?

I once sketched a series of "concept cars" which I thought would be good selling editions in the U.S.  Most car manufacturers give their cars names like "Probe" or "Taurus" or "Camry" or some other non-offensive name... but I was thinking of some "Mad Max" style armored cars with names like "Brutalizer," "Executioner"  and "Chaos Hawg."  I think they might do well in the marketplace.
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Re: Nissan Pivo - Twin 50s Edition
Reply #3 - Oct 1st, 2005 at 8:47am
 
Hmmm....

   Where to begin....

-I DON'T think the rotating cockpit would help with, well, with ANYTHING!!!! Now, if the WHEELS rotated, that would make parallell parking easier. The ball thing is kind of weird, disturbing, and might make a person motion sick. (Imagine if it gets stuck just off center at a time when you really have to go somewhere...)

-The turret is nice, but you'd definitely have to stop to transverse. You should probably put retractable pinions on it too; the torque from the turret would probably tip the vehicle.

   For a wacky real-life design, check out the German Luchs. It's a tank with forward and rear drivers; so you don't have to turn it around. Ever.

-Tanks are the best. I was originally trained as an armoured crewman; and the first time I got to touch a Leopard was.... *sigh* Last month they let me try the LAV 3. UNBELIEVABLE targeting system in that thing.

-For squashing zombies, damned near any armoured vehicle would suffice. I'd probably go for a german Wiesel, or Brit Scorpion. Light armour, but them things fly! Hydroplaning through the living dead would ROCK!!!!

-When I was at the U, we studied the Probe factory in Michigan. (It was an American plant that used a lot of ideas from the Japanese way of doing things.) I asked the guy running things why they'd call it a "Probe." (Imagine the police report, should you get rear ended by one....) He said he wasn't part of the team that designed the mane, but he DID know that one of hte deciding factors was that the name offended women.

   True story. Neither of us got the connection....

   Heee heee..... tanks....

   I should dig up the pic of the pickup truck with the retractable 50's in the bed.

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Re: Nissan Pivo - Twin 50s Edition
Reply #4 - Oct 2nd, 2005 at 5:55pm
 
ctc wrote on Oct 1st, 2005 at 8:47am:
-I DON'T think the rotating cockpit would help with, well, with ANYTHING!!!!


...depends on how you're using it.  I immediately thought of a ball turret, such as those employed on a WWII B-17 or B-29.  A 360-degree motion control device is useful if you're using it to aim a set of machine guns.

ctc wrote on Oct 1st, 2005 at 8:47am:
Now, if the WHEELS rotated, that would make parallel parking easier. The ball thing is kind of weird, disturbing, and might make a person motion sick. (Imagine if it gets stuck just off center at a time when you really have to go somewhere...)


I believe that some large pickup trucks already have four-wheel steering, for dexterity during parallel parking events.

Otherwise, I would use the ball turret to spin around and around while driving down the highway, which I would find amusing, at least until my passengers threw up.

ctc wrote on Oct 1st, 2005 at 8:47am:
-The turret is nice, but you'd definitely have to stop to transverse. You should probably put retractable pinions on it too; the torque from the turret would probably tip the vehicle.


You could kill most of the torque by installing a large counterweight under the cab, with the same weight as the cab, which would rotate in the opposite direction of the cabin.  It would still try to pick up a wheel because of gyroscopic precession, but at least it wouldn't try to counter-rotate the chassis.

ctc wrote on Oct 1st, 2005 at 8:47am:
  For a wacky real-life design, check out the German Luchs. It's a tank with forward and rear drivers; so you don't have to turn it around. Ever.

-Tanks are the best. I was originally trained as an armoured crewman; and the first time I got to touch a Leopard was.... *sigh* Last month they let me try the LAV 3. UNBELIEVABLE targeting system in that thing.


I had a materials science instructor at WSU who pointed out that the highest technology is always defined by the military.  In fact, the progress of technology is marked by improvements in weapons fabrication... in the "stone age" men fought by hitting each other with crudely shaped rocks, the "bronze age" consisted of bronze swords, spearpoints and shields, the "iron age" introduced steel handweapons, the "space age" opened a new frontier for continued rivalry of the superpowers.

Military technology is the ability to survive in a hostile world, and to outcompete rivals for natural resources (such as petroleum, metal ores, fresh water, etc).  Falling behind means being Darwin'd out of the gene pool.

...on a more personal level, since men are the hunters, warriors, and protectors of the tribe, the ones with the coolest toys wins.
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ctc wrote on Oct 1st, 2005 at 8:47am:
-For squashing zombies, damned near any armoured vehicle would suffice. I'd probably go for a German Wiesel, or Brit Scorpion. Light armour, but them things fly! Hydroplaning through the living dead would ROCK!!!!


Fortunately we don't have a zombie problem right now, but unfortunately if the world develops a large, aggressive, entitlement underclass, the effect is the same.
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ctc wrote on Oct 1st, 2005 at 8:47am:
-When I was at the U, we studied the Probe factory in Michigan. (It was an American plant that used a lot of ideas from the Japanese way of doing things.) I asked the guy running things why they'd call it a "Probe." (Imagine the police report, should you get rear ended by one....) He said he wasn't part of the team that designed the mane, but he DID know that one of the deciding factors was that the name offended women.


Well, I would call that a failure of the marketing department... to men, a "probe" suggests cool space age hardware, or maybe a dangerous high-tech interstellar exploration... to women, a "probe" is something used in a pelvic exam.
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I'm guessing that Ford didn't poll too many women before they selected that particular auto designation.
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Reply #5 - Oct 3rd, 2005 at 12:38am
 
Hello,

Wow, that is a lot.

Well I think it is cool.

Now if we could put some sort of energy weapon on this  vehicle with the same effect and design with more armor maybe a tread here and their just to satisfy my Tank hunger then we are set, plus make it a two seater for that little cute Buni I like as well.

We will call it a number two for right now.

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Reply #6 - Oct 3rd, 2005 at 6:59am
 
jhwood9 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 5:55pm:
I believe that some large pickup trucks already have four-wheel steering, for dexterity during parallel parking events.


  AND some of the larger transport trucks. I've seen a few in action, it's weird.... and a bit disturbing; 'cos the motion doesn't look natural.

jhwood9 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 5:55pm:
Otherwise, I would use the ball turret to spin around and around while driving down the highway, which I would find amusing, at least until my passengers threw up.


  I've done this in a jeep. It's pretty funny. (Note to readers: when turning onto a dirt trail from off the highway, SLOW DOWN FIRST.)

jhwood9 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 5:55pm:
You could kill most of the torque by installing a large counterweight under the cab, with the same weight as the cab, which would rotate in the opposite direction of the cabin.
 

  Wow... I imagine that'd weigh the thing down a LOT. However, I'm betting that turret would render the vehicle immobile. It probably weighs twice that of the body as it is.

jhwood9 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 5:55pm:
Military technology is the ability to survive in a hostile world, and to outcompete rivals for natural resources (such as petroleum, iron ores, fresh water, etc).  Falling behind means being Darwined out of the gene pool.


  Yeah. That applies to a lot of aspects of military life too. Unlike many corporations, idiots don't usually make it too far in the army. They die. (we could use a LOT more of that elsewhere.... maybe then tv wouldn't suck...)

  So... what's with the water refrence. Heard something?

jhwood9 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 5:55pm:
...on a more personal level, since men are the hunters, warriors, and protectors of the tribe, the ones with the coolest toys wins.


  I can think of a few female types that may disagree with part of that statement..... Canada seems to have a better integration of male/female soldiers than the US. (A friend of mine absolutely LOVED the C9 LMG. I saw her squeeze a single round off; which is impressive in and of itself... and plant it in the crotch of a mansized target 200 meters away.)  

jhwood9 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 5:55pm:
Fortunately we don't have a zombie problem right now, but unfortunately if the world develops a large, aggressive, entitlement underclass, the effect is the same.


  ...and I've already got my bat with a nail in it! When it comes time to overthrow our corporate masters I'll be leading the charge!!!!! Like the song says:

"Let's tip the power balance and tear down the Crown... educate the masses, we'll burn the White House down..."

jhwood9 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 5:55pm:
Well, I would call that a failure of the marketing department... to men, a "probe" suggests cool space age hardware,


  ...to me it implies a little gray alien guy with a glowing stick....

jhwood9 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2005 at 5:55pm:
I'm guessing that Ford didn't poll too many women before they selected that particular auto designation.


  The weird thing is that I got the impression they DID poll a lot of women.

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Reply #7 - Oct 3rd, 2005 at 10:51am
 
But what does it run on? My next car has to run on vegetable oil.  Wink
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Reply #8 - Oct 4th, 2005 at 7:19am
 
Hmmm....

   If only they could make a car that runs on hate.... I'd be set.

   *grrrrr*

   See.........

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Reply #9 - Oct 4th, 2005 at 7:56am
 
Kyle Miller wrote on Oct 3rd, 2005 at 10:51am:
But what does it run on? My next car has to run on vegetable oil.  Wink


...I've read articles about cars which have been adapted to run on used cooking oil, like that used in deep fat fryers.  The major drawback is that your car's exhaust smells like French frys.
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Several universities have built solar-powered cars, but typically their top speed is only about 10 mph.  Fuel is free, but you have to have a lot of patience (and be prepared for a rest stop when a cloud obscures the sun).
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It's hard to beat the efficiency and performance of an internal combustion gasoline powered engine.  Sadly world oil output has peaked and is now declining, and China is also making a bid to obtain a growing percentage of the available supply.  So, we can expect prices to rise and keep climbing dramatically.

There is some promising research that demonstrates that municipal garbage (which is mostly carbon-based stuff like paper and cardboard) can be pulped and cooked into crude oil, mimicking the procedure that produced the world's natural oil reservoirs.  Until this process is perfected, we might want to get reacquainted with our bicycles.
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Reply #10 - Oct 4th, 2005 at 10:27am
 
jhwood9 wrote on Oct 4th, 2005 at 7:56am:
...I've read articles about cars which have been adapted to run on used cooking oil, like that used in deep fat fryers.  The major drawback is that your car's exhaust smells like French frys.


Mmmmmm... french fries....  Grin
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Reply #11 - Oct 4th, 2005 at 4:23pm
 
Hello,

Can you photoshop it again and make it match up, so it is all uniform and looks nice at the same time.  Also I must add that the design looks better then the original.  You made it look nice where as the original looks hidious.  Like I said I like it, despite what any one else has said about it.

But I would drive it with the guns either pointed to the fore or pointed aft while I drove.

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Reply #12 - Oct 4th, 2005 at 6:56pm
 
JHernandez wrote on Oct 4th, 2005 at 4:23pm:
Can you photoshop it again and make it match up, so it is all uniform and looks nice at the same time.


Too much work. 
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Actually, it could happen but it would be very difficult... the current mod is just two photos slapped together.  Redesigning the car body would require some 3D modeling or Illustrator work.

JHernandez wrote on Oct 4th, 2005 at 4:23pm:
But I would drive it with the guns either pointed to the fore or pointed aft while I drove.


The chassis looks very light... firing the guns to either side would probably roll the vehicle.  Oops.
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Reply #13 - Oct 4th, 2005 at 9:45pm
 
Hi,

Is it possible to make the colors match?  Or is that too much work again?

Any way very nice job.

I bet a could make miniature of that and paint it all one color, just so it matches.

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Reply #14 - Oct 5th, 2005 at 5:11am
 
Hmmmm.....

   I've seen the cooking oil powered cars too. Weird. Supposedly they work pretty good; and it's not a lot of work to convert one over.

   I'm betting we'll see electric cars soon. Some of the new ones can hit speeds of 130MPH. (More; if they add capacitors. Works like nitrox for a quick speed boost.) GM has designed a modular electric car. The body can be removed from the chassis and a new one snapped on. (It's like a big model kit.) You can convert from pickup to inivan to cruiser in a few minutes. To overcome power problems they did the same thing as the old Car Wars game; each wheel has an independant motor.

   As for the modified car here; I'm betting TURNING would roll the vehicle. A copula weighs around 600 to 800 lbs. That car chassis probaby weighs around 300 or 400.... MAYBE. (It looks like a light fiberglass; probably over an aluminum frame.)

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